The Skills are supposed to be underneath the Attributes with some clear space under the ‘Total’ for the Skill Level and what to roll (e.g. 7: 5d6 +2). There are also supposed to be gaps between all the other headers (e.g Name: & Player: and Advantages/Dis & Powers).

That will teach me to reply to queries.

Cliff

IMMORTALIS CHARACTER SHEET

Name: Player:
Description:

ESSENCE: FATE POINTS: EPs:

ATTRIBUTES AND SKILLS:
BODY Total AWARENESS Total INTELLECT Total SOCIAL Total
Athletics ( ): Empathy ( ): Medicine ( ): Animal H ( ):
Craft ( ): Notice ( ): Knowledge ( ): Charm ( ):
Dodge ( ): Tracking ( ): Command ( ):
Drive ( ): Willpower ( ): Commerce ( ):
Endurance ( ): Performance ( ):
Larceny ( ): Subterfuge ( ):
Lifting ( ): Linguistics ( ):
Marksman ( ):
Melee ( ):
Pilot ( ):
Reflexes ( ): Occult ( ):
Stealth ( ): Streetwise ( ):
Thrown ( ): Survival ( ):

Tick in the brackets for Favoured Skills

ADVANTAGES/DISADVANTAGES POWERS

I’m afraid the Tables and formatting disappeared when I cut and pasted this rather basic character sheet, so you will have to fiddle a little. Just cut and paste this into a Word Document.

Cliff

What a slick game. Hmm, constructive criticism… I wish there were more than two options for endgame, you know, other than survival or replacement.

If I can find people to run this with I think I might do something like that, like if a character’s qualities exceed the control rating, he manages to stay one step ahead of the robots. If he exceeds the control rating by a lot, then history books mention the character as one of the main people working against Section 44. If he exceeds by a huge amount, that player get’s to make up a little story about the future. Are there robots in it? Do they live peacefully with people? Do they live on other planets in space? Maybe the humans copied their minds onto robot bodies and turned the tables on the robots, infiltrating them. If the character’s qualities are equal to or just under the control rating then he isn’t replaced but lives the rest of his life as a hermit, afraid of meeting people in case they are robot replacements. If the character looses to control bigger than that, the robots come to get him.

But that’s just me. Maybe two is enough endgame results. Maybe I’m spoiled by the multiple endgame results from Misspent Youth (that Robert Bohl game), and Dream Merchants (available elsewhere on this site).

Thanks for the comments! Yes I made a mistake there – you should follow p. 7, 110 points, because I split Fear into Fear of Harm and Fear of Loss.

Goes without saying, best of luck in this endeavor – keep up the good work!

After that I intend to cobble together some notes I have for an S&S companion book and then S&S version 1.2.

I have a self imposed deadline of mid March for all this BTW, which is when I take a work/internet holiday. Wish me luck.

Anyway, I just downloaded the book an hour ago and skimmed it with a friend. All he had to say was: “All hail Dagon.”

So yeah, I think I’ll be using the book as an in-setting thing.

viii – the latter

ix – yes. and if you’re really mean, by the referee in secret! hehehe!

x – you don’t know what a potion is until you drink it and see it’s effects or get it tested by an alchemist or similar.

xi – sure.

xii – one use and yes.

xiii – ditto.

xiv – yes hence the name.

xv – yes

xvi – sure

xvii – to 2d6

xviii – one use

xix – I meant the victim. I’ll rewrite that in version 1.2.

xx – yes and yes.

xxi – yes…..d’oh!

xxii – yes

xxiii – see xxi….

xxiv – yes

happy to oblige, Adonies. and I’d love to hera about any games of S7S you play BTW.

vii) p.17, “disease”: what is the “permament” damage? To subtract 1d6 you actually mean to take away one of the player’s dices before any CR until cured? Interesting twist, the “spreading” – is it done the same way as the monsters?
viii) p.17, “poison”: is the penalty rolled on the moment of poisoning, or simply one die removed before any CR for the rest of the adventure?
ix) p.17, “suffocation”: the plus 1d6 rounds is rolled on suffocation start?
x) p.18, “potions”: It would be better to move the table over the paragraph about scrolls. Why would anyone want to drink a potion of “CONFUSION”???
xi) p.18, “scrolls”: Please consider stating here to roll d20 to decide which spell the scroll contains (from spell list)…
xii) p.19, “black scroll”: does it have only one or unlimited uses? The skeletons are typical MR 10, as described in “monsters”?
xiii) p.19, “elixer of life”: does it have only one or unlimited uses? full abilities = POW & END max, remove afflictions (poison etc)?
xiv) p.19, “hammer of destruction”: Warrior can get ‘doubles’ very easily with his 3d6…
xv) p.19, “helm of spite”: damage inflicted bypasses armour?
xvi) p.19, “magic wand”: Please consider stating here to roll another d20 to decide which spell the scroll contains (from spell list)…
xvii) p.19, “magus staff”: so a wizard with this equipped gets 1 + 2 = 3 d6 for damage, or simply upgrades his 1d6 to 2d6?
xviii) p.19, “seal of teleportation”: does it have only one or unlimited uses?
xix) p.19, “soul killer”: why would the caster lose any POW? Do you mean your targets’? But monsters don’t have Focus, do they?
xx) p.19, “swift blade”: “single” means “the same” right? So, if target was killed on first attack, the second never happens…
xxi) p.20, 6th para: Mind = POW. Please consider revising to “… four times their MR as their END or POW.”
xxii) p.21, “basilisk”: up to referee to determine how to handle the “turned to stone” condition?
xxiii) p.22, “harpy”: MAGIC book = Spell List.
xxiv) p.22, “dragon”: I assume the ’single’ missile CR works the same way as you described in your answer {z}, using each character’s DV and circumstancial modifiers.

Overall WELL DONE!

And thank you for paying attention to my questions :)

m – No, just once.
n – yes.
o – circumstantial esp. if you’re standing four metres from a cliff edge.
p – just that round.
q – you can only Rapid Fire if you don’t move that round.
r – I meant for sequencing but I guess I wasn’t clear. Version 1.2 anyone?
s – fair comment.
t – ditto
u – ditto
v – ditto
w – maybe. Remember that most spells can’t fail at all and spells like Blessing only fail if cast as Curse instead.
x – a combat encounter is now, now, NOW! a spell such as Warding is designed to give the players time to really consider their next move(s).
y – yes but then it is a curse afterall.
z – the spell is cast and a CHR CR is made. assuming the fireball was directed at a gang of orc soldiers (MR 11) and goblin Sneaks then a CR total of 9 only hits the goblins and a total CR of 11 is required to hit everyone. If the CR fails and the caster doubles his POW cost but only hits the goblins. This should have been explained better.:(

i – yes
ii – right!
iii – Either way is fine. I imagined the spell as a “quikie”…
iv – no I mean Defence.
v – Again, I imagined magical items/effects not being that obvious and the caster having to make a real effort to identify what is and isn’t magical but it would be everything within a resonable area.
vi – yes and yes. I can’t believe I missed that!!!!GAH!!!!

m) p.10, 3rd para: if both the target is behind effective cover AND the PC is using an improvised weapon, then halve TWICE the CR?
n) p.11, “Breakaway”: i.e. without a ‘free’ attack?
o) p.11, “Disarm”: what is the significance of the 1d6 distance the weapon is knocked away?
p) p.11, “Full Defence”: any other action than moving cancels tyhe effect, otherwise ON until end of encounter?
q) p.11, “Rapid Fire”: what is the significanc that no move is made that round? Are you the effecting the (common enough) rule of one move and one attack per round? If so, I completely missed it in the combat encounter description…
r) p.11, “Spring Into Action”: is the increased dex used for this round’s sequence calculations only, or for any actions that happen this round (i.e. increased DV and ranged-attack)?
s) p.11: Please consider stating also here the rule for simply consuming all remaingin POW when the roll is greater than the pow left (as you did in spellacsting).
t) p.12, 3rd para: “He rolls 1d6 …” + which came up 3 + ” … and reduces his POW by 3 to 5.”
u) p.12, 5th para: “He rolls 1d6 …” + which came up 1 + ” … and reduces Ulf’s POW from 5 to 4.”
v) p.14, about “Dark Ritual”: ‘usable only to cast spells.” Could the Wizard use POW for anything else?
w) p.14, para before example: New rule, the spell never fails. But this way POW will be depleted very quickly. I feel this new rule is perhaps unbalancing the wizard, making it inferior to the other roles…
x) p.15 & 16: What is the exact significance of ‘minutes’? From the context I get the feeling that the whole combat encouter will last maybe 10 minutes. Wouldn’t it be better described measured in combat rounds instead, and leave minutes for non-combat situations only? Just a suggestion :)
y) p.15, “curse”: next (whatever) roll is cursed only? A bit imbalanced on the beneficial side, isn’t it?
z) p.15, “firebal”: How can a ’single’ CHR CR determine who is and who isn’t hit? Please clarify. Also, if cover counts as if a missile weapon is being used, it means that the CHR CR is doubled?

I ran out of letters, so I’m continuing with latin numbers:
i) p.15, “levitate”: it’s up to the referee to decide when a load is heavy or not?
ii) p.16, “magic aura”: a being’s armor CAN be reduced to zero, but not less – right?
iii) p.16, “quiet words”: ‘this lasts for a number of rounds equal to the caster’s level’. I’d have thought the ‘minutes’ definition preferrable, as this seems a non-combat spell.
iv) p.16, “shielding”: by defence you mean DV I guess.
v) p.16, “sixth sense”: is this really a spell that needs to be cast and POW spent? It sounds more like an intrinsic magic-user’s ability/skill…
vi) p.16, “turn the undead”: Spirit = CHR. per level of caster?

Missed typo:
p.15, first sentence: “an area of with a radius” remove ‘of’

I’ll be back asap with the rest of my questions ;)

Typos:
a) p.2: hotmail instead of hotamil (I guess)
b) p.3, first sentence: its instead of it’s
c) p.3, last paragraph: where instead of were (two times).
d) p.4, first sentence: i.e. instead of IE (Internet Explorer :P)
e) p.4, line 14: “to” twist instead of “the”
f) p.5, first sentence: guaranteed instead of guarantied
g) p.10, fifth paragraph: “… he the CR …” remove he
h) p.10, eigth paragraph: Halve instead of Half (it’s a verb)
i) p.10, last paragraph: “… , can gain a …” remove can
j) p.11, third paragraph: “a” heroic instead of “an”
k) p.11, third paragraph: “A feat is performed” instead of “taken”
l) p.12, first paragraph: “was thrown” instead of “is”

That’s all I found, remarkably few! I’ll be back with the more rule-specific issues (yep, still there are some). It’s very nice that you added the warrior skills and the gameplay examples!

From the quick first glance it looks good – I’ll be back with comments once I read it carefully.

Are you going to provide an introductory adventure separately, apart from the examples of gameplay you provided in the ruleset?

#2: I’m using your reply as my character sheet.

I have not yet had the pleasure of reading the full PDFs yet, but I have a sneaking suspicion that your reaction of anger, to nothing more comsequential than a RPG that confused you a little, is exactly the reason the Normality RPG exists and exactly what the designers were going for.

Real artists, famous and respected artists, have been doing the same sort of thing for sculpture, painting, and literature for almost a century now. (HINT: THEY ALREADY DESCRIBED THE GAME AS DADAIST, AND IF YOU’RE OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL YOU REALLY SHOULD KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.) This game is like the RPG equivalent of Marcel Duchamp mounting an ordinary urinal in an art museum — and it got about the same reaction from people who Just Like Art That Looks Like Pretty Stuff.

You don’t have to like it, but it does have a useful and thought-provoking purpose, and I wish you’d taken five minutes to consider what that purpose might be before you dismissed it as a “piece of garbage.” If it’s garbage, yanno, it might at least be garbage for a REASON. Sheesh.

There’s so much more I want to say, but I have neither the time or will to continue reviewing this piece of garbage.

Actually, it has both :p I designed it as a toolkit, so it lists Width as Speed but offers an alternative take using Height. The Dragon Reign document specifically uses Height instead of Width for Speed.

I’ll give it a look over altough I’m working on a random dungeon system of my own. Don’t hold your breath mind!

may I interest you in Pocket Dungeon?
http://boardgame.geekdo.com/boardgame/42361/pocket-dungeon
It’s a lightweight dungeoncrawl system. Maybe the mechanics of the dungeon creation process inspire you to create an expansion and introduce your own rules for dungeons for S&S :)

Thumbs up – good job you’ve done here :)

Other than that its a very well put together compendium.

Why not?

Can you include a demo adventure in it as well? It could be the setting to clarify the examples as well ;)

About combat, can you make a simple example?
(PB) – “S&S version 1.1 is about a week or two (def. before the end of January) from being put up on 1km1kt and it’ll include loads of examples. The people have spoken!”

I haven’t played the WWW game and I wonder if there’s positioning, range and line-of-sight/movement involved on a 2D grid.
(PB) – “only if you and your players want it. I use very simple maps and use them only as a guide to who’s where. With regard to tactics and the like, i play it by ear, IE you’re either in range or not, you can see the orcs or you can’t etc.”

I’m afraid I don’t fully understand your answer on the Hydra. Do you mean that each round the Hydra attacks multiple opponents (all that are close and have engaged it) normally, but one of them receives additionally 1d6 attacks?
(PB) – “if a hydra is engaged in combat against more than one opponent, it’ll attack 1d6 of them. One single opponent will suffer 1d6 attacks in a single round.”

Diplomacy, information gathering and negotiation in general are all CHR, right?How about animal calming, disguise and posturing?Singing -> CHR?
(PB) – “all CHR”

Performing musical instrumentsDancing? Jumping, Climbing, Crawling, Stealth?
-> probably DEX.
(PB) – “correct”

About combat, can you make a simple example? I haven’t played the WWW game and I wonder if there’s positioning, range and line-of-sight/movement involved on a 2D grid.

I’m afraid I don’t fully understand your answer on the Hydra. Do you mean that each round the Hydra attacks multiple opponents (all that are close and have engaged it) normally, but one of them receives additionally 1d6 attacks?

Diplomacy, information gathering and negotiation in general are all CHR, right?

How about animal calming, disguise and posturing?

Performing musical instruments -> probably DEX. Singing -> CHR? Dancing?

Jumping, Climbing, Crawling, Stealth?

1 – yes (for all).
2 – no. The STR Trait modifier is still +4 but because he is level 2 he can add +1 to all CR (STR, DEX or CHA).
3 – yes.
4 – yes.
6 – depends on the referee.
7 – version 1.1 will have rules concerning disease.
8 – going back and looking at that again makes me realise it makes no sense….ignore it for the moment and I’ll tackle it in 1.1.
9 – flyers can always land and engage in meelee combat but they can also just up and leave as well but I’d allow a free attack from the PC if they do
10 – probably. again it depends on the referee. I’d give the PCs a fair warning through an NPC and allow they to get mirrors, polish shields etc and allow meelee combat with a penalty if you’re using a mirror etc…
11 – a harpy’s song works like a Confusion spell.
12 – you have to be hit in meelee and then fail the CR to be poisoned. being poisoned means that ALL CR suffer a -1d6 modifier (which stack with repeated poisoning) for the rest of the adventure or unless a cure spell is cast.
13 – one opponent will suffer 1d6 attacks. how many multiple opponents engageing the hydra in combat that can be attacked is determined on a round by round basis with a 1d6 roll.
14 – natural talent…..I am considering in version 1.1 that ALL monster special abilities require the loss of 1d6 POW in order to be activated. What you think about that?

…and you’ll have to let me think about that last bit….

1. Warrior declares Savage Blow, or Frenzied Attack, or Skilful Strike(melee or ranged) (SB, FA or SS{m/r}) because has POW > 0. Rolls 1d6 and subtracts from POW – make POW = 0 if 1d6 was more than left.
POW is lost no matter if the hit(s) connect or not.
SB -> CR toHit, if success (>= DV) roll 3d6 (if no other modifiers exist) and double the result. Apply as damage, mitigated by recipient armour.
FA -> CR toHit, if success (>= DV) roll 3d6, apply as damage mitigated by armour. Again CR toHit, if success (>= DV) roll 3d6, apply as damage, mitigated by armour.
SS{m/R} -> CR toHit, add 1d6 as circumstantial modifier. If success (>= DV) roll 3d6 damage normally, apply mitigated by recipient armour.
Do I have the process right?

2. “Leveling-up”. Bonus +1 to any and all CR. Can I interpret that as bonus on Trait Modifiers? i.e. On each even level, no matter what trait modifier is computed by amount of trait, it is increased by Bonuses. e.g. A warrior with STR 17 reaches level 2. Chooses STR as the Trait to be increased by one -> 18. Therefore Trait Modifier (STR) is 18/2 – 5 = +4. Rolls 1d6 to add to either END (recomputed) or POW. Then selects a +1 bonus on STR CR, which would effectively increase his STR Trait Modifier to +5.
Right?

3. Decision of what spell each scroll found as treasure contains is determined by 1d20 roll (like power-stone)?

4. All special magic items can be used by all classes (unless specifically stated)? e.g “Sheltering Shield” and “Sword of Sharpness” can be used by Wizards?

6. “Ghoul”. Paralysis = KO’d for 2d6 rounds = meat for slaughter?
7. “Mummy”. Rotting touch = if disease is contracted, victim has no effect in-round/in-fight but loses END as the days pass? (Adventuring Hazards needs an entry about that)
8. “Minotaur”. Gore attack = an example of “critical hit doubles damage” please.
9. “Flyers” in general cannot be hit be melee weapons, but only by ranged and magic missiles?
10. “Basilisk”. Petrifying gaze = turned to stone = as good as dead?
11. “Harpy”. MAGIC book = Spell list?
12. “Manticore”. Poisonous Stinger = suffer be poisoned = no effect in-round/in-fight but loses END as the days pass? (Adventuring Hazards is vague at this point)
13. “Hydra”. Multiple attacks = attack [1d6] multiple opponents or attack a single opponent [1d6] times? GM’s choice or Roll?
14. “Dragon”. Fireball (as spell) every 1d6 rounds. Does this subtract 1d6 POW or is it a ‘natural’ talent?

Getting 1d20 rolls with 2d6:
One 6-dice is declared “Major” and the other “minor”. Both are rolled.
Major rolls of 5 or 6 are re-rolled. Minor rolls of 6 are re-rolled.
Roll is (Major – 1) * 5 + Minor {uniformly distributed in the 1..20 interval}.
How about that?

To answer your questions:

1. “Combat Encounters”: Skilful Strike. Add 1d6 to his DEX or STR DV to-hit. An example please. (When you declare a Skilful Strike before attempting to hit an opponent in hand-to-hand combat (a STR CR against the opponent‘s Defence), or with a missile (a DEX CR against the opponent‘s Defence) , spend 1d6 POW and then roll a d20 AND a d6 before adding them together to get a to-hit-roll total.)

2. “Spellcasting”: Body points?(that’ll be a C.P.E or a Cut and Paste Error from the WWW game. Sorry! Should read END).

3. “Spellcasting”: (1) Antimagic Shell. Should be “all” instead of “no” attempts. – (That’s correct.)

4. “Spellcasting”: (9) Intangible. Why the CR to cast this ‘beneficial’ spell to a friendly target? Next sentence, you actually mean the “spell recipient” instead of “caster”, right? ( Ignore the CR. And yes.)

5. “Spellcasting”: (14) Magic Aura. Armour? Does this desciption mean to add another 1d6 to all “damage absorption” rolls for the duration of the fight? (Yes. So a Wizard would have 1d6 armour, a Wanderer 2d6 armour and a Warrior 3d6 armour for the duration of the fight if Magic Aura was cast on them once.)

6. “Adventuring Hazards”: Disease?(…oops! See version 1.1…coming soon!)

7. “Treasure”: (Scrolls) Mind and Spirit points/CR? (C.P.E… Mind was changed to POW and Spirit to CHR)

8. “Treasure”: (6) Fotress Armour”. Doubles the amount of armour dice rolled. An example please.( A Wanderer wearing Fortress Armour rolls 2d6 armour and a Warrior rolls 4d6 armour. This can be added to again by casting Magic Aura but this is NOT doubled.)

9. “Treasure”: (11) Power Stone. What is the meaning of “specific” spell – does a different stone exist for each of the spells? ( the referee should randomly determine exactly which spell by rolling a d20 and picking that number spell from the spell list.)

10. “Treasure”: (14) Shadow Cloak. Increases PC’s Defence by 1d6 when worn. When is this rolled? An example please.( Actually I should have made this clearer. Roll 1d6 at the start of every combat and add it to the PC’s Defence if he/she is wearing this item)

11. “Treasure”: (16) Soul Killer. Mind & Focus? Also, you actually mean “from dark rituals” instead of “for dark rituals”, right? (The Focus stores additional POW a Wizard has purchased between adventures and which can only be used to cast spells. Mind should read POW…C.P.E and yes, it should be from not for.)

12. “Monsters”: What do you mean by appropriate “Talent”? (C.P.E…again. Talents aren’t used in S&S but they are in WWW)

13. Almost all proposed monsters are Brutes (including animals and vermin). Only two Mystics and three Sneaks among them. (I figured your standard monster was likely to be a Brute simply because it’s easier than being a Sneak or a Mystic! Orcs are listed as all three but you’d probably encounter a LOT more Brutes than Sneaks or Mystics in any given tribe…. I could easily imagine a kobold tribe as being 95% composed of Sneaks and a group of “Squid-headed-psychics-from-THAT-game” would have an equal percentage of Mystics in their ranks.)

14. How about detecting hidden (eg. doors and traps), picklocking/breaking doors and disarming mundane/magic traps? ( They’re all DEX CR (except for breaking open a door which would be a STR CR)…although I’d halve the CR for anything “magical”.)

15. I’d like to play this game without a d20, using only d6’s. How would you suggest I do that? (Short of a complete rewrite of the game, I‘ve no idea. Sorry)

Hi Adonies,
That’s a LOT of questions and I want to answer all of them in one go so I’ll be back in a few hours.

Glad you both like the game though. I’ve had quite a few comments which is great but I have realised I need to do some additional work, namely examples of rules in play and the correction of the occasional spelling/grammer error.

Watch this space!

After reading carefully I have some questions:
1. “Combat Encounters”: Skilful Strike. Add 1d6 to his DEX or STR DV to-hit. An example please.
2. “Spellcasting”: Body points?
3. “Spellcasting”: (1) Antimagic Shell. Should be “all” instead of “no” attempts.
4. “Spellcasting”: (9) Intangible. Why the CR to cast this ‘beneficial’ spell to a friendly target? Next sentence, you actually mean the “spell recipient” instead of “caster”, right?
5. “Spellcasting”: (14) Magic Aura. Armour? Does this desciption mean to add another 1d6 to all “damage absorption” rolls for the duration of the fight?
6. “Adventuring Hazards”: Disease?
7. “Treasure”: (Scrolls) Mind and Spirit points/CR?
8. “Treasure”: (6) Fotress Armour”. Doubles the amount of armour dice rolled. An example please.
9. “Treasure”: (11) Power Stone. What is the meaning of “specific” spell – does a different stone exist for each of the spells?
10. “Treasure”: (14) Shadow Cloak. Increases PC’s Defence by 1d6 when worn. When is this rolled? An example please.
11. “Treasure”: (16) Soul Killer. Mind & Focus? Also, you actually mean “from dark rituals” instead of “for dark rituals”, right?
12. “Monsters”: What do you mean by appropriate “Talent”?
13. Almost all proposed monsters are Brutes (including animals and vermin). Only two Mystics and three Sneaks among them.
14. How about detecting hidden (eg. doors and traps), picklocking/breaking doors and disarming mundane/magic traps?
15. I’d like to play this game without a d20, using only d6’s. How would you suggest I do that?

Overall, congratulations on a lovingly-made concrete ruleset.
Keep up the good work (it’s true that you need to give some more skills to the Warrior and a few Wanderer-specific).

To answer your questions.

1 – the lower mod on the monster table is the normal standard “plus” to all CR, of a monster with that MR.
The higher number is that PLUS the one-third MR monsters add to certain CR because of their speciality.
So an MR 15 BRUTE is +2/+7.
Any DEX or CHR CR it makes gains a +2 (15/2=7-5=+2).
Any STR CR it makes gains a +7 because it adds 1/3 its MR to that +2 (15/3=5+2=+7)

2- What is intended is that as monster MR get higher the monster gets tougher and players should always be wary of them. Granted, high MR monsters should be rare or “boss” monsters but I feel that a player’s metagame knowledge of a monster can often promote inventive action “in-game”. So if the players see the referee inflict 7d6 damage on some hapless NPC it just might make them consider their next move VERY carefully.

That being said a PC’s ability to inflict and resist damage are mutable through the spending of POW.
A Warrior can declare a Savage Blow, spend 1d6 POW and inflict 3d6×2 damage if the hits in hand-to-hand-combat. (I’m also playtesting some more defensive feats at the moment and considering allowing Wanderers access to them at a greater POW cost than Warriors.) Wizards/Wanderers have access to spells such Lightning (up to 24 points of damage that ignores armour and cover) and Magic Aura which gives temporary armour, altough hand-to-hand combat still favours the Warriors.

Armour can only ever reduce damage to a minimum of 1 so even the weakest character can chip away at a monster and high-level characters should have a few magic items on them to help. It is possible for a Warrior using the Hammer of Destruction to declare a Savage Blow and inflict up to 108 points of damage in a single hit!

Hope that helps.

I personally don’t see the bears like frightend children much, athough the game could be played like that easily. there’s a lot that can be done with this.

Also, if i ever get to play or run this, first thing i’m doing is makeing a four-armed Witchdoctor Bear with razor claws and a penchant for hearts.

Check out the microlite20.net site where some bloke in the UK has shrunk D&D 3.5 down to it’s bare essentials (or about 5 pockmods). Genius!

The new rules were submitted for publication today and are called Sword & Spell. I’ll post more when it’s up on site.

I say all this to say that this is a very impressive game, and I think the system you have made, especially with the Passions, are exquisite. The passion tag, combined with the traits, forced me to make decisions about this character that I hadn’t expected.

There is one slight discrepancy: on page 6 the Character Creation Guide stated that characters got 110 Passion point at creation, while page 7 says that player gets 100 points. I went with page 7, but that’s worth taking a look at.

Again, excellent job!

http://sites.google.com/site/hogtunnels/tunnel-quest?pageMoved=Hog%20Tunnels

I’m working on a new edition that will include a basic GM moderated adventure.

In the game, player cannot hoard the potion (maybe i should change that to something else), you can only drink that potion in the castle and it takes effect immediately. Also, when doing battle, you don’t gain turn, and you don’t lose turn when fighting some lower rated monster.

I like our idea of the variable effect option and limiting the potion. Might want to do that in some mods ;)

Thanks for playing :D

Seeing this game is essentially a resource management exercise, I immediately set about to break it. ^__^’ But it turned out to be not so simple, thanks to the ingenious interactions of the Turn track and terrain placement.

Is there a minimum Turn requirement for combat? Ie, if I have all items (BP 7) and attack a Chiisai, do I lose one or no Turns, or do I actually gain five back (2-7=-5)?

It’s obvious you can only get one each of the BP items, but what about Recovery Potions? Are they available in unlimited supply? I found a way to “break” the game by getting to a point where you can continuously battle Cactus Kings one square away from the castle, so that you end up winning money and losing no Turns (Cactus King vs. BP 1 = 3 Turns, gain 7 Gold, 1 Turn out of the castle and 1 Turn back in, buy Potion for 5G and -5 Turns, net effect: lose no Turns, gain 2G). Repeat until you can afford all items and about three extra potions. (Oh yeah, this assumes you can “hoard” potions; if you can only buy one at a time and they take effect immediately, it changes the dynamics a bit. But not completely, I think.)

My solution: have the Potion have a variable effect based on the letter on the Turn track when the player enters the castle (eg. A: -4 Turns, B: -5, C: -6), and/or have the castle store only carry ten (for example – I haven’t done the math). If you put in the checkboxes, there could easily be a row of them for the potions.

That said, a marvellous effort! Keep up the good work!

Yes its Creative Commons although I didn’t put those logo in there, and yes you may make some mods as long as you credit me, my game and my group’s blog (that’s http://experimentalplayground.blogspot.com) :D

p/s: i would like to play your version! yay!

And it’s so modifiable. You could easily add more equipment, more monsters, new maps and still easily fit on one page. Great stuff.

How is it licensed? Some form of Creative Commons (I hope?) I’d love to make some mods.

Thank you for playing the game :D

Yes the sorcerer is in the cave (upper-right of the board) he don’t move at all because he is preparing the 21 turns spell. And yes you need 10 more turns, which is obvious you need to gather equipment and power-up to fight him.

When I was making this game, I challenge myself for a 1 page game, hence the same exact monster (will improve it eventually ;) )

You maximum BP would be 7, and I like your suggestion for a checkbox, never thought of that actually :D

and thank you again for playing!

Does “defeat the sorcerer” mean the sorcerer is in the cave at the upper-right of the board? You have to get there with 10 turns to spare in order to win?

I was disappointed that forest/plains have exactly the same monsters. It seems like these should be different.

Can I buy more than one sword/armour/boots? The character sheet suggests one each, so a maximum of 7 BP? Maybe the sheet should just say “Genji Sword” with a checkbox next to it, if you can only buy one.

Thanks

So, I’m rearranging the rules, adding a few of my own and put it up on 1km1kt for commnets and abuse.

Hope that’s OK Xavier!

Also I was wondering if you mind if I produced some illustrations based on your RPG MYTHIC, for two reason… 1) It’s a very groovy RPG and I like to draw… and 2) to pad my portfolio a little.

THANKS

you can email me at mjluke@live.com

Thanks

Maybe it could use Die Roll Mods, I don’t know, just as a house rule, like if you played it for a while you might want to get a magic sword that gives you a strait plus one on rolls, or if you put a dragon up against the players, you might want to give the dragon a plus four or five on all his rolls, so you would have to at least be interesting at something in order to have even a chance of competing. An ordinary dude can not hurt a dragon.

Oh, and the game never explains what the counters are for.

I will submit the PDF and ask the site owners if the french file can be put alongside the english version. Keep in touch!

Jean-François