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Postby Praetorian » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:50 am

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Postby Spectre » Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:17 pm

Come on... I bet the last two teams by a 100 POINTS. Page when are we going to play against each other? I need some kind of challenge... hehe :D
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Postby mekara48 » Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:42 pm

well i got bent over bad
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Postby General Lee » Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:02 pm

The fact that I don't have the internet is at my house is the real reason that I haven't been able to update my team. I could have done it at work but I always forget about it until I get home. Never fear Chris, when we met againg be sure that I will bring my A-game.
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Postby Spectre » Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:56 pm

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Postby Praetorian » Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:12 am

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Postby General Lee » Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:34 pm

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Postby Praetorian » Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:23 pm

Okay, we have a real problem. I brought this up in the league- but I am also going to post it here because I think everyone needs to address this issue- and in a timely fashion.

[From the league site]

Return yards are wonky. When starting a player that only does returns and does not actually play in the offense is a strong option in lieu of a starting WR that is a legit touchdown target... something is messed up.

This is in addition to the fact that only 1 return TD has been scored- returners are making all their points from simple yardage.

Upon reevaluation I think reception yards need to be revised. Specifically, getting the equivilent of rushing points for a return does not seem fair- since a RB faces an offensive line that a return specialist does not. I suggest they get points like a WR 15yds/pt.

[Now, additional commentary]

Part of the problem is that no one knew the return specialists would be so effective in this game of Fantasy football. If we did, then we would have all drafted more return specialists instead of picking them up off the waiver wire.

Look at the top 4 teams (Guard included)- they all include return specialists. The Spicers, Rancor, and Linemen all have two spots on their active roster dedicated to return specialists with only minimal (if any) regular recpetions or rushes. Go compare points as well... when starting WRs on Indianapolis and Seattle are gaining less points than some average return specialist- things need to be changed.

Now look at the bottom 4 teams. Few if any have dedicated return specialists... and most of them that do exist are true part-timers... gaining return yards as a bonus rather than as their primary source of scoring.

It comes down to a competitiveness issue... and an attempt to reflect how Football is actually played. The teams that did not jump on return specialists are the ones losing out (which DOES NOT include my team- I consider the Guard part of the "haves" on this issue).

Most importantly, when you have a regular starter in a WR position that ends up gaining 3/4 of their points from return yardage (not even through return TDs)- then this does not reflect the game of football we are supposed to be emulating.
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Postby Lamb » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:00 am

i would agree, except all you had to do before the season to know return specialists would be valuable was to look at their fantasy point totals... they were rated far above most other wide recievers, which is why I drafted one so early. I agree with most of your points, except why punish those who drafted return specialists early?

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Postby TinyHandsTinyKnots » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:21 am

That's an interesting point. As far as drafting a definite returner is concerned, not too many teams had one going into the season as most of the returners are rookies and such. Dante Hall being an exception as well as players like Rod Smart and that guy from the Skins, name isn't coming to mind. As I saw how much use they could get me, I have been looking for one for the past couple of weeks, more of a defensive player who returns than a reciever type. It seems that may compound points a little better. But as it stands, it is difficult to tell because teams are releasing players and making new guys the returners all the time. But as far as points are concerned, a returner shouldn't be making more points than a receiver unless he does something spectacular. After all, a returner only plays maybe 10-15 plays a game. A starting receiver averages between 45 and 55. Why should a returner, who I might add, is usually a player not actually good enough to be a true position player, be getting more points than a starter just because of a technicality. You carry Dante Hall on your squad Jason, have you watched a Cheifs game since he became their primary returner. I will admit he is an amazing returner, but his skills a receiver are 4th tier. Now I ramble, but the point stands, the weighting of points almost seems like an oversight.
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